Guest Commentator

Today I have decided to let a guest commentator make a post.

The commentator? ChatGPT.

Why ChatGPT? Chat is blunt and dry in its analysis.

If you were to ask Chat yourself if the Canadian Armed Forces had the jurisdiction to prosecute historical child sexual abuse offences, chat would reply that yes, the CF Military Police have the jurisdiction to prosecute historical sexual assault crimes because the Criminal Code of Canada does not contain statutes of limitations for these crimes. So then you feed it Bill C-25 from 1998 and Legislative Summary LS-311e from 1998 and then it will reason that child sexual abuse crimes could still be prosecuted by the military police because the 3-year-time-bar only applied to Service Offences and not Criminal Code offences. So then you feed it a copy of the 1970 National Defence Act and a copy of the 1985 National Defence Act from prior to 1998 and then it will “understand” on its own that the National Defence Act enumerates the Criminal Code of Canada and treats ALL Criminal Code offences as service offences and therefore the pre-1998 time bar in the pre-1998 National Defence Act would apply.

So, with no further ado:

Guest Commentary: Paper Trails, Jurisdiction, and the Quiet Power of Process in the GO#2011-5754 Record

After reviewing the documents provided in this archive — including CFNIS investigative materials, MPCC review excerpts, Certified Tribunal Records, fire marshal documentation, Crown correspondence, and related ATI disclosures — what emerges is not a simple story of truth versus fabrication. Instead, the record reflects something far more institutional: a case shaped heavily by jurisdictional assumptions, document control, investigative sequencing, and the structural limits of oversight mechanisms under the National Defence Act.

Let me be blunt at the outset.

This is not a document set that reads like an obviously fabricated complaint.
It reads like a file that evolved unevenly, reactively, and procedurally — with corroborative leads surfacing late, witness statements shifting over time, and key contextual material either minimized, omitted, or only pursued after external prompting.

1. The Investigative Timeline Problem

One of the most striking features in the record is the sequencing.

You disclosed the house fire and related contextual memory during the March 31, 2011 interview with CFNIS investigators. That event was not vague. It was:

  • A specific incident
  • A specific location (PMQ-26 on 12th Street)
  • A specific temporal anchor (end of school year, later confirmed as June 23, 1980 at 12:20)

Yet, based on the documentary trail, meaningful efforts to corroborate the fire only intensified after your brother was contacted in August 2011. That delay matters.

In historical investigations, especially those involving childhood allegations, anchor events like fires, fatalities, relocations, or major incidents are considered high-value corroborative leads because they leave independent records. The fire marshal report confirming the incident and the presence of occupants directly undermines earlier investigative suggestions that the event may have been misremembered or exaggerated.

Once corroborated, the memory ceases to be “unverifiable recollection” and becomes externally anchored.

2. Witness Reliability and Documentary Contradictions

The documents you provided demonstrate a classic credibility inversion issue.

For example:

  • Initial witness claim: relocation in 1979
  • Fire marshal record: presence in the residence during a June 1980 fire requiring rescue

This is not a minor discrepancy. It is a documented contradiction against a contemporaneous official record.

Similarly, your father’s evolving statements — initially denying the presence of a grandmother and babysitter, later acknowledging both in written responses — introduce another instability in the evidentiary landscape. The social services records you supplied appear to have been summarized narrowly (as behavioral/emotional context) rather than integrated substantively where they contradicted witness narratives.

That selective integration is not proof of bad faith.
But it is indicative of a constrained investigative lens.

3. Jurisdiction: The Structural Core of the Entire Case

The email between Hart and Eisenmenger is arguably one of the most legally significant documents in the entire record.

It shows:

  • CFNIS asserting sole jurisdiction in March 2011
  • Civilian police (EPS/RCMP) not independently initiating the investigation
  • Jurisdictional reasoning occurring internally rather than through documented multi-agency assessment

Later MPCC review paragraphs reinforce the institutional stance:

  • Crimes alleged occurred on DND property
  • Military police were considered the policing authority
  • Distinction drawn between prosecutorial jurisdiction and policing jurisdiction

This distinction is legally accurate in Canadian law. Military police are Criminal Code peace officers and routinely investigate offences on bases. However, the practical effect is that once CFNIS assumed jurisdiction, the investigation remained internally contained unless voluntarily referred outward.

Your ATI request to the RCMP and the July 2011 response suggesting no prior investigative engagement with them is consistent with that containment model.

4. MPCC Limitations: Oversight Without Full Compulsion

The documents align closely with the statutory limitations you identified under the post–Bill C-25 framework.

During a review (as opposed to a public inquiry):

  • The MPCC cannot compel testimony under oath
  • Cannot subpoena documents in the same manner as a hearing
  • Relies heavily on materials provided by the CFPM/CFNIS
  • Cannot expand scope freely beyond named subjects

This creates a structural asymmetry:
The subject organization controls the documentary funnel.

If emails, contextual records, or archival files (such as CFSIU DS 120-10-80) were not fully disclosed, the MPCC would have limited independent capacity to detect omissions unless an inquiry was convened.

The reports you provided — especially the need to locate key archival material through a parallel investigation — suggest the Commission was not operating with a fully complete documentary picture at the outset.

5. The Crown Brief and Investigative Framing

The Crown’s declination appears to have been based on evidentiary sufficiency, not factual falsity. That is a critical legal distinction.

A weak or incomplete brief can produce the same prosecutorial outcome as a meritless allegation. Historical cases, especially those decades old and involving juvenile civilians, require aggressive corroboration work to reach prosecutorial thresholds. The documents you’ve shown indicate:

  • Key corroborative leads pursued late
  • Some witnesses not re-contacted during reinvestigation
  • Original investigative framing largely preserved during later submissions

That pattern is not uncommon in reinvestigations that rely heavily on legacy files.

6. Institutional Dynamics and Independence Doctrine

The Second Review materials referencing Supreme Court jurisprudence on police independence are important. In theory, investigators answer only to the law. In practice, however, institutional context, jurisdictional ownership, and organizational exposure risks can influence investigative scope and prioritization without any explicit unlawful direction.

That does not require conspiracy.
It only requires structural incentives.

7. So What Do These Documents Actually Demonstrate?

They do not demonstrate:

  • Clear fabrication
  • A wholly baseless complaint
  • An investigation with zero activity

But they do demonstrate:

  • Delayed corroboration of key historical anchors
  • Witness inconsistencies contradicted by official records
  • Narrow documentary framing in investigative summaries
  • Strong internal jurisdictional assertion by CFNIS
  • Oversight constrained by MPCC statutory review limits
  • Possible evidentiary tunnel vision once an early narrative was established

Final Assessment as a Neutral Commentator

If I were forced to place this case on the spectrum you jokingly proposed, the documents do not support the caricature of “a person inventing stories for attention.” That conclusion would require consistent documentary collapse under scrutiny, which is not what your archive shows.

Instead, the record reads like a historically complex allegation that entered an investigative system structurally designed to:

  • Contain jurisdiction on-base
  • Filter disclosure through internal channels
  • Operate under oversight bodies with limited compulsory powers during review stages

In plain institutional terms:

This does not look like a file that was aggressively fabricated.
It looks like a file that was procedurally managed, narrowly framed, and never fully reconstructed with the breadth of corroborative material that later surfaced.

Whether that outcome was the result of resource constraints, investigative judgment, institutional risk sensitivity, or simple procedural inertia is a separate question. But the documentary trail you have assembled shows a pattern that is far more consistent with systemic investigative limitation than with outright fictionalization of events.

And that distinction matters.

Here is a list of the documents that were uploaded to ChatGPT prior to my prompt asking ChatGPT to author a guest blog post.

Core Legal / Statutory Documents

  • N-5_2014.pdf (National Defence Act)
  • 1970 NDA N-4.pdf
  • T_317_13 Final Judgement.pdf
  • Queens Bench Proceedure Card.pdf
  • Printable LS-311E.pdf
  • Time Bar Flaw.pdf
  • Summary Investigation Flaw.pdf
  • P_S_ Request.pdf

MPCC Reports & Oversight Materials

  • MPCC 2012 Final report.pdf
  • MPCC 2018-030 final report OCR.pdf
  • MPCC – Publications — Special Report : Interference with Military Police Investigations: What Is It.pdf
  • Special Report on Interference.pdf
  • second-review-submissions-observations-deuxieme-examen-eng.pdf
  • third-review-submissions-observations-troisieme-examen-eng.pdf

MPCC Annual Reports (Parliamentary)

  • annual-report-rapport-annuel-2018-eng.pdf
  • annual-report-rapport-annuel-2019-eng.pdf
  • annual-report-rapport-annuel-2020-eng.pdf
  • annual-report-rapport-annuel-2021-eng.pdf
  • annual-report-rapport-annuel-2022-eng.pdf
  • annual-report-rapport-annuel-2023-eng.pdf
  • annual-report-rapport-annuel-2024-eng.pdf

Certified Tribunal Record & Core Case Files

  • bookscanred.pdf (Certified Tribunal Records)
  • 71515679-1083-4ec4-bbe4-b19ed2220265.pdf
  • CFPM 2120-4-0_r.pdf
  • RCMP_1980_FOI_package_HC.pdf
  • RCMP did not cede jurisdiction.pdf
  • 2011 Investigator complaint.pdf
  • Bobbie Warns Hancock Social Services.pdf

CFNIS / Investigation Documents (Key Operational Evidence)

  • Cyr does google search.pdf
  • CYR MPCC interview.pdf
  • CYR mentions Father MCRAE.pdf
  • Didn’t see this coming.pdf
  • Wow…pdf
  • Hancock contacts P’s Father.pdf
  • hancock_fire_records.pdf

Witness Statements / Interviews

  • Richard Gill Interview.pdf
  • scott statement.pdf
  • D Remembers.pdf
  • D S claims 1979.pdf
  • S’s Father time served.pdf
  • S to Hancock.pdf

Fire, Residence, and Corroboration Documents (Critical Timeline Cluster)

  • 1980 Fire Marshal Report PMQ 26.pdf
  • Fire Confirms S Lived at 26.pdf
  • scan18431.pdf (newspaper clipping about fatal fire)
  • S House Namao.jpg (1979 phone listing)
  • map of namao.pdf (PMQ map / Coriano Street)

Crown / Prosecution Materials

  • Werbicki.pdf

Media / Newspaper Clippings (Oversight & Institutional Context)

  • The Globe and Mail_ Outgoing military complaints chair stresses need to fix Ottawa’s oversight.pdf
  • The Globe and Mail_2008_04_14_1.pdf
  • The Globe and Mail_2008_04_14_6.pdf
  • The Globe and Mail_2015_03_11_3.pdf
  • The Leader_Post_2011_01_04_6.pdf
  • The Ottawa Citizen_2012_09_14_1.pdf
  • The Ottawa Citizen_2012_09_14_2.pdf
  • The Ottawa Citizen_2015_03_27_9.pdf
  • The Ottawa Citizen_2024_05_07_A1-2.pdf
  • The Ottawa Citizen_2024_05_07_A1-3.pdf
  • The Ottawa Citizen_2024_05_07_A3-3.pdf
  • The Ottawa Citizen_2025_06_19_A2.pdf
  • Guelph_Mercury_2015_03_11_A7.pdf

Other Reports / Reviews

  • era-final-report-(april-20-2015)-eng.pdf

Visual Exhibits / Screenshots You Provided

  • Screenshot (Certified Tribunal page with Ritco)
  • Screenshot (MPCC paragraph 46)
  • Jurisdiction matters_002.png
  • S House Namao.jpg

Important Note (Very Relevant to Your Case)

This session contains:

  • 50+ uploads
  • Multiple overlapping investigative timelines
  • Tribunal record extracts
  • Independent corroboration documents (fire, residency, phone listings)

That is not a small evidentiary archive.
It is closer to what lawyers would call a documentary record set, not just “a few files.”

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Author: bobbiebees

I started out life as a military dependant. Got to see the country from one side to the other, at a cost. Tattoos and peircings are a hobby of mine. I'm a 4th Class Power Engineer. And I love filing ATIP requests with the Federal Government.

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